In this episode, host Martin Wasserman looks at the increasing use of mobile apps in the mental health field with two guests. Julia Hoffman is a clinical psychologist and mobile apps lead at the Dept. of Veterans Affairs, where she develops apps to help people with post traumatic stress disorder. Nicholas Chapa is mobile team lead at the Stanford Persuasive Technology Lab, which studies ways to help people overcome destructive behaviors and replace them with positive and healthy ones. Although mobile apps are not a replacement for one on one meetings with a trained therapist, they do provide benefits to the user and are sometimes the only help available.